Comments on: Beyond Flash 10 and AS3 http://www.jadbox.com/2008/10/beyond-flash-10/ Programming, Visualization and Game Development Theory Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:18:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Dan Linstedt http://www.jadbox.com/2008/10/beyond-flash-10/comment-page-1/#comment-179 Dan Linstedt Sun, 17 May 2009 14:16:50 +0000 http://www.jadbox.com/?p=580#comment-179 D.Eval is really cool.... I like the functionality, and it's easy to use. Just an idea. http://www.riaone.com/products/deval/index.html Dan L D.Eval is really cool…. I like the functionality, and it’s easy to use. Just an idea.

http://www.riaone.com/products/deval/index.html

Dan L

]]> By: mb http://www.jadbox.com/2008/10/beyond-flash-10/comment-page-1/#comment-134 mb Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:16:12 +0000 http://www.jadbox.com/?p=580#comment-134 "Operator overrides" hell yes! “Operator overrides”

hell yes!

]]> By: Josh Strike http://www.jadbox.com/2008/10/beyond-flash-10/comment-page-1/#comment-89 Josh Strike Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:27:30 +0000 http://www.jadbox.com/?p=580#comment-89 eval() would be really, really nice... self-mutating code is where it's at, especially if you want your AIs to be able to take on flexible properties of other AIs for increasing complexity over time. There's no other real way to allow cross-breeding of behaviors...without eval() you're always either stuck with a fixed set of variables, or you're stuck doing a fixed range of convolutions on an unlimited set of data; you can't do both. eval() would be really, really nice…
self-mutating code is where it’s at, especially if you want your AIs to be able to take on flexible properties of other AIs for increasing complexity over time. There’s no other real way to allow cross-breeding of behaviors…without eval() you’re always either stuck with a fixed set of variables, or you’re stuck doing a fixed range of convolutions on an unlimited set of data; you can’t do both.

]]> By: admin http://www.jadbox.com/2008/10/beyond-flash-10/comment-page-1/#comment-39 admin Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:42:05 +0000 http://www.jadbox.com/?p=580#comment-39 Hey Josh, thanks for the comment! Here a short follow-up: “A service package to directly access MySQL.” Ya, I was envisioning this to only be used for server-side applications... not ones that the client use (unless there was a secure way to do it). “Maybe add YAML to E4X proxy method since YAML is growing in popularity” Ya, I agree more or less. “Move some of the general utilities from Flex to Flash…” At least some of the basic utils should be moved over... I mean UIDUtil CAN'T use that much internal Flex framework for simply generating a hash? “eval command” Eval command brings in some of the most powerful concepts of reflection programming into play. Granted however, this is not a feature that will change 98% of developers that use Flash if it gain it. So... I guess it's not really that important to me. One thing that I did forget to mention is system-level hardware access from AIR... I'll touch base on what exactly I mean in my next post Monday. Hey Josh, thanks for the comment! Here a short follow-up:

“A service package to directly access MySQL.”
Ya, I was envisioning this to only be used for server-side applications… not ones that the client use (unless there was a secure way to do it).

“Maybe add YAML to E4X proxy method since YAML is growing in popularity”
Ya, I agree more or less.

“Move some of the general utilities from Flex to Flash…”
At least some of the basic utils should be moved over… I mean UIDUtil CAN’T use that much internal Flex framework for simply generating a hash?

“eval command”
Eval command brings in some of the most powerful concepts of reflection programming into play. Granted however, this is not a feature that will change 98% of developers that use Flash if it gain it. So… I guess it’s not really that important to me.

One thing that I did forget to mention is system-level hardware access from AIR… I’ll touch base on what exactly I mean in my next post Monday.

]]> By: Josh Tynjala http://www.jadbox.com/2008/10/beyond-flash-10/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Josh Tynjala Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:01:07 +0000 http://www.jadbox.com/?p=580#comment-38 Some thoughts on a few of them: "A service package to directly access MySQL." I hope this never happens. The security risks are too high. SWFs can be decompiled. Unless your MySQL user account is read-only, anyone will be able to start making changes to your DB by extracting your password from the SWF. "Maybe add YAML to E4X proxy method since YAML is growing in popularity" YAML isn't as popular as you think. First, I'd like to see native JSON support. JSON is definitely getting popular with the REST crowd, and it's AS "native". "multi-thread operation handling" Yes please. Even a single worker-thread would do wonders so that the app can still display something during longer operations. "Move some of the general utilities from Flex to Flash..." Flash Player, or just a generic AS3 library? I know in the past Adobe has stated that since AS3 can perform pretty well, they want as much as possible running in code rather than natively within Flash Player. Flex is an open source library, and many of the files are usable without the whole framework. If you just want a general library that isn't tied to the Flex name, I say it's not worth the effort. "A way to use function.apply on a class constructor when making a new object instance!" I discovered this limitation recently. I agree. Something is needed here. "eval command" I can honestly say that I've NEVER had to use eval(). Unless someone can give me a really awesome use-case, I'm not interested in this one. Some thoughts on a few of them:

“A service package to directly access MySQL.”

I hope this never happens. The security risks are too high. SWFs can be decompiled. Unless your MySQL user account is read-only, anyone will be able to start making changes to your DB by extracting your password from the SWF.

“Maybe add YAML to E4X proxy method since YAML is growing in popularity”

YAML isn’t as popular as you think. First, I’d like to see native JSON support. JSON is definitely getting popular with the REST crowd, and it’s AS “native”.

“multi-thread operation handling”

Yes please. Even a single worker-thread would do wonders so that the app can still display something during longer operations.

“Move some of the general utilities from Flex to Flash…”

Flash Player, or just a generic AS3 library? I know in the past Adobe has stated that since AS3 can perform pretty well, they want as much as possible running in code rather than natively within Flash Player. Flex is an open source library, and many of the files are usable without the whole framework. If you just want a general library that isn’t tied to the Flex name, I say it’s not worth the effort.

“A way to use function.apply on a class constructor when making a new object instance!”

I discovered this limitation recently. I agree. Something is needed here.

“eval command”

I can honestly say that I’ve NEVER had to use eval(). Unless someone can give me a really awesome use-case, I’m not interested in this one.

]]> By: ethan http://www.jadbox.com/2008/10/beyond-flash-10/comment-page-1/#comment-37 ethan Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:40:53 +0000 http://www.jadbox.com/?p=580#comment-37 http://code.google.com/p/assql/ http://code.google.com/p/assql/

]]> By: senocular http://www.jadbox.com/2008/10/beyond-flash-10/comment-page-1/#comment-36 senocular Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:32:15 +0000 http://www.jadbox.com/?p=580#comment-36 You can find some of these already proposed at bugs.adobe.com. For MySQL, I believe there is also a library that does that now - I only know this from overhearing someone else mentioning it, so I don't know much about it myself, but it could be something to look into. Concerning other language complaints, maybe they could be solved with the new compiler project. http://www.onflex.org/ted/2008/02/extending-adobe-flash-player-and-adobe.php You can find some of these already proposed at bugs.adobe.com. For MySQL, I believe there is also a library that does that now – I only know this from overhearing someone else mentioning it, so I don’t know much about it myself, but it could be something to look into.

Concerning other language complaints, maybe they could be solved with the new compiler project.
http://www.onflex.org/ted/2008/02/extending-adobe-flash-player-and-adobe.php

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